It’s not easy to refine or evaluate what I took away from the impromptu conversation yesterday with a friend. He was in the building on other business and stepped in the office for five minutes that turned into an hour. He grew up a preacher’s kid, but that was a long time ago. His journey has included ministry within the organized church, but his more recent history is outside the organized structures. “Church” for him is about relationship with Jesus and the contacts with others that Jesus instigates. I don’t know what I take away from that conversation yesterday, but it has something to do with relationship.